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Monday, August 11, 2008

The Sick Minds Of Pro Infanticde Wackos

I just had to post this thread here from another blog site. I wanted to save this example of a cold hearted view of innocent life. Also, for anyone to equate an execution of a murderer to taking a life of a helpless, innocent child will always be beyond my comprehension and these people will utlimately answer to God and also the babies whose murder they condoned.




If one does not believe Barry to be bad for America, then read what his bill in the senate will do if passed.
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=70308
The U.S. Senate soon could debate whether you, your spouse and each of your children – as well as your in-laws, parents, grandparents, neighbors and everyone else in America – each will spend $2,500 or more to reduce poverty around the world.
The plan sponsored by Sen. Barack Obama, the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee, is estimated to cost the U.S. some $845 billion over the coming few years in an effort to raise the standard of living around the globe.....if approved, dedicates 0.7 percent of the U.S. gross national product to foreign aid, which over 13 years, he said, would amount to $845 billion "over and above what the U.S. already spends."
And here is the the messhiah Barry in his own words "Obama said. "It must be a priority of American foreign policy to commit to eliminating extreme poverty and ensuring every child has food, shelter, and clean drinking water. As we strive to rebuild America's standing in the world, this important bill will demonstrate our promise and commitment to those in the developing world.
"Our commitment to the global economy must extend beyond trade agreements that are more about increasing profits than about helping workers and small farmers everywhere,"
Sorry messiah B, it is not our job and unfortunately we still support the UN. If private organizations want to donate to the poor of the world, then great. But for our government to do it is wrong. We need to keep our wealth in our country. But Barry Hussein and those like him who want a socilalist or Marxist One World Order are the most dangerous enemy of all: They are inside our gates, they pander to the emotions of people, they tell us how bad and mean we are. That if a hardworking American earns more than $250,000 a year they are wealthy, thus evil. That all people should share in the rewards of hard work and effort, even if they don't earn it.
Bottom line: America is quickly approaching a fork in the political road. Turn right and drive back towards the light of rugged individualism and self support with limited government intervention. Or turn left towards the dark shadows of liberalism/socialism/ Marxism. Where the government is your nanny, providing Pamper to Depends care for all. Where our laws are second to the international court. Where there are no borders. Where freedom of speech is labeled Hate Speech. Plain and simple: It is a path to evil.

Sat, 2008-07-26 12:34
See,
MtnMom Says:
It's this whole world economy thing that bugs me. It got on my nerves back when the first GB started talking about the "New World Order" and it bugs me now. I am with you on this one jh. I really am. May have worded a couple things differently but all in all the one world economy is the goal of more politicians than we realize. I don't like it. Don't like what I think are going to be the long term ramifications on our freedom as we know it now. Little by little our freedoms are being taken away. We gotta dig deep, know what us going on in Congress and know how our elected officials are voting. If they are selling us out it may be time to start some "shouting from the mountain tops" or rooftops anyway.
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Sat, 2008-07-26 12:41
Actually, I wouldn't word anything differently.
MtnMom Says:
Just read it again and to steal a quote from you, you got this one "spot on!" I don't know if Americans understand that the one world economy is so close to becoming a reality. I know folks don't realize the potential repercussions and I do not believe that we are going to be able to strike the ideal balance needed to avoid losing our individual freedoms as we have known them in America, at least not in the long term.
Great post!
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Sat, 2008-07-26 17:38
MtM
jheaton Says:
You may find this article interesting. Where I think the article is spot on is how the break down of the family unit and the removal of God from our public life has lead some people who want something to "believe" and trust in. Since we are being told by many on the left that a family is whatever you want it to be and that God is not where are morals and laws derive from, it is natural for many to be duped into the socialist/Marxist abyss.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/02/obama_the_messiah_of_generatio.html
So what is the source of this infatuation with Obama? How to explain the hysteria? The religious fervor? The devotion? The weeping and fainting and utter euphoria surrounding a candidate who had the audacity to run for leader of the free world on a platform of mere hope?
If anthropologists made predictions the way meteorologists do, they might have anticipated Obama's astronomical rise to supernova status in 2008 of the Common Era. Consider the cultural coordinates, and Obama's intersection with history becomes almost inevitable.
To play weatherman for a moment, he is a perfect storm of the culture of narcissism, the cult of celebrity, and a secular society in which fathers (both the holy and the secular) have been increasingly marginalized from the lives of a generation of young Americans.
All of these trends have been gaining momentum the past few decades. Social critic Christopher Lasch named the culture of narcissism a generation ago and cited addiction to celebrity as one of the disease's symptoms -- all tied to the decline of the family.....
Here's how a 20-year-old woman in Seattle described that Obama feeling: "When he was talking about hope, it actually almost made me cry. Like it really made sense, like, for the first, like, whoa ... "
This New Age glossolalia may be more sonorous than the guttural emanations from the revival tent, but the emotion is the same. It's all religion by any other name.
Whatever the Church of Obama promises, we should not mistake this movement for a renaissance of reason. It is more like, well, like whoa.
When I here MahatamObama speak, the word "Movement" does come to mind, but the kind where you need a magazine and a candle!
The more I see of people, the better I like my dogs!
John D. Heaton jr....."Jack"
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Sat, 2008-07-26 17:43
When you have no core values...La_Verdad Says:
...like most Obamabots, you will easily fall for slogans.
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Sat, 2008-07-26 17:44
Hmmmm!
MtnMom Says:
A specimen!
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Sat, 2008-07-26 17:53
LaV
jheaton Says:
I 100% agree. Morals are from God and not man made. Read the article above. It explains a lot of what we are dealing with today. Keep up the good work!
The more I see of people, the better I like my dogs!
John D. Heaton jr....."Jack"
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Sun, 2008-07-27 10:30
The way I see the deal is it is not that Obama is bad for
gmaudlin Says:
America. It is the entire political system with all it's participants that are bad for America. Obamas gesture is good. Who would be against helping others. Not me. But we are far from being stablized in our own house (Country). To focus on others is just another distraction from addressing the real problems facing our very own people. I think they do this "shifting" on purpose. All this achieves is for us (you and I) to focus on issues other than what our leadership should be addressing and are responsible for. The real hard core fundamental issues our Country faces.
We are broke economically.
We cannot compete globally.
Our country in infiltrated with drugs.
Our prisons are filled to capacity. Crime is out of control. Gangs run on our turf.
Our trade balance is badly inverted.
Our schools are in disarray (Schools can have far more impact upon our survival that we give credit for).
We lack competitiveness and real opportunity in America.
The list goes on and on.
I would hope the Senate discard issues such as this and gives full energy to getting the fundamental necessities in place for our country (thats us) to survive.
It is parallel to this. It is the same as a family of four facing a 48 hr. notice of shut off for gas, water and electricity and instead of addressing that issue the family sits down and plans a Cruise to the Carribean.
Where have all our leaders placed their priorities? I would be in favor of terminating employment on all of them. Federal, and State. Their performance report is unsatisfactory.Think about it: Every educated person is not rich, but almost every educated person has a job and a way out of poverty. So education is a fundamental solution to poverty.
- Governor Kathleen Blanco
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Sun, 2008-07-27 11:03
Morals. Yes, let's talk morals.
gmaudlin Says:
Morals are nothing more than beliefs that I hold on to. Some of my beliefs are irrational. Yes, the bible (God) is one way to establish morals. There are many other ways as well. For instance, if I attach myself to a friend that is kind and compassionate to others I just may pick up that characteristic myself. Books have may ideas on how to be a "moral" person. A person of compassion and character, for instance.
Morals don't mean much. Values are the real deal. Values establish each and every one of our legacys, as we go thru life.
As an example I may have a moral (belief) that I should help other people, lets say from the premise of unconditional love.
I walk down the street and see a woman laying face down on the concrete, she is laying in a small pool of blood. Do I walk around her or do I stop and give her assistance? That is a value. That is where the rubber meets the road with each and every one of us.
We can preach morals. But we have to live values.
Think about it: Every educated person is not rich, but almost every educated person has a job and a way out of poverty. So education is a fundamental solution to poverty. - Governor Kathleen Blanco
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Sun, 2008-07-27 12:13
Coffee Spittin....
jheaton Says:
all over my screen when I read this!
http://michellemalkin.com/2008/07/25/laughing-at-the-lightworker/
And it came to pass, in the eighth year of the reign of the evil Bush the Younger (The Ignorant), when the whole land from the Arabian desert to the shores of the Great Lakes had been laid barren, that a Child appeared in the wilderness.
The Child was blessed in looks and intellect. Scion of a simple family, offspring of a miraculous union, grandson of a typical white person and an African peasant. And yea, as he grew, the Child walked in the path of righteousness, with only the occasional detour into the odd weed and a little blow.
When he was twelve years old, they found him in the temple in the City of Chicago, arguing the finer points of community organisation with the Prophet Jeremiah and the Elders. And the Elders were astonished at what they heard and said among themselves: “Verily, who is this Child that he opens our hearts and minds to the audacity of hope?”
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/gerard_baker/article4392846.ece
In the great Battles of Caucus and Primary he smote the conniving Hillary, wife of the deposed King Bill the Priapic and their barbarian hordes of Working Class Whites.
And so it was, in the fullness of time, before the harvest month of the appointed year, the Child ventured forth - for the first time - to bring the light unto all the world.
He travelled fleet of foot and light of camel, with a small retinue that consisted only of his loyal disciples from the tribe of the Media. He ventured first to the land of the Hindu Kush, where the
Taleban had harboured the viper of al-Qaeda in their bosom, raining terror on all the world.
And the Child spake and the tribes of Nato immediately loosed the Caveats that had previously bound them. And in the great battle that ensued the forces of the light were triumphant. For as long as the Child stood with his arms raised aloft, the enemy suffered great blows and the threat of terror was no more.
From there he went forth to Mesopotamia where he was received by the great ruler al-Maliki, and al-Maliki spake unto him and blessed his Sixteen Month Troop Withdrawal Plan even as the imperial warrior Petraeus tried to destroy it.
And lo, in Mesopotamia, a miracle occurred. Even though the Great Surge of Armour that the evil Bush had ordered had been a terrible mistake, a waste of vital military resources and doomed to end in disaster, the Child's very presence suddenly brought forth a great victory for the forces of the light.
And the Persians, who saw all this and were greatly fearful, longed to speak with the Child and saw that the Child was the bringer of peace. At the mention of his name they quickly laid aside their intrigues and beat their uranium swords into civil nuclear energy ploughshares.
From there the Child went up to the city of Jerusalem, and entered through the gate seated on an ass. The crowds of network anchors who had followed him from afar cheered “Hosanna” and waved great palm fronds and strewed them at his feet.
In Jerusalem and in surrounding Palestine, the Child spake to the Hebrews and the Arabs, as the Scripture had foretold. And in an instant, the lion lay down with the lamb, and the Israelites and Ishmaelites ended their long enmity and lived for ever after in peace.
As word spread throughout the land about the Child's wondrous works, peoples from all over flocked to hear him; Hittites and Abbasids; Obamacons and McCainiacs; Cameroonians and Blairites.
And they told of strange and wondrous things that greeted the news of the Child's journey. Around the world, global temperatures began to decline, and the ocean levels fell and the great warming was over.
The Great Prophet Algore of Nobel and Oscar, who many had believed was the anointed one, smiled and told his followers that the Child was the one generations had been waiting for.
And there were other wonderful signs. In the city of the Street at the Wall, spreads on interbank interest rates dropped like manna from Heaven and rates on credit default swaps fell to the ground as dead birds from the almond tree, and the people who had lived in foreclosure were able to borrow again.
Black gold gushed from the ground at prices well below $140 per barrel. In hospitals across the land the sick were cured even though they were uninsured. And all because the Child had pronounced it.
And this is the testimony of one who speaks the truth and bears witness to the truth so that you might believe. And he knows it is the truth for he saw it all on CNN and the BBC and in the pages of The New York Times.
Then the Child ventured forth from Israel and Palestine and stepped onto the shores of the Old Continent. In the land of Queen Angela of Merkel, vast multitudes gathered to hear his voice, and he preached to them at length.
But when he had finished speaking his disciples told him the crowd was hungry, for they had had nothing to eat all the hours they had waited for him.
And so the Child told his disciples to fetch some food but all they had was five loaves and a couple of frankfurters. So he took the bread and the frankfurters and blessed them and told his disciples to feed the multitudes. And when all had eaten their fill, the scraps filled twelve baskets.
Thence he travelled west to Mount Sarkozy. Even the beauteous Princess Carla of the tribe of the Bruni was struck by awe and she was great in love with the Child, but he was tempted not.
On the Seventh Day he walked across the Channel of the Angles to the ancient land of the hooligans. There he was welcomed with open arms by the once great prophet Blair and his successor, Gordon the Leper, and his successor, David the Golden One.
And suddenly, with the men appeared the archangel Gabriel and the whole host of the heavenly choir, ranks of cherubim and seraphim, all praising God and singing: “Yes, We Can.”
The more I see of people, the better I like my dogs!
John D. Heaton jr....."Jack"
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Sun, 2008-07-27 12:17
J if you are going to give us the link,truthseekers Says:
why copy and paste the whole thing yet again? And your response is to copy and paste some more? Why not add some more still? And more still?
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Sun, 2008-07-27 12:25
I would like it if you can consolidate a two sentence statement
gmaudlin Says:
as to what the message is. To much to read for me right now.
Thanks and have a great day too.
Think about it: Every educated person is not rich, but almost every educated person has a job and a way out of poverty. So education is a fundamental solution to poverty. - Governor Kathleen Blanco
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Sun, 2008-07-27 13:11
I take it you do not have any confidence in Obama, JH.
gmaudlin Says:
Can you state who you will vote for and who you advocate others vote for and state how they will address the following problems. Short comments please.
Drug cartel operating in America.
Underfunded and lack of quality schools in our nation.
Gangs infiltrating our country.
Out of control incarceration in our country.
Out of control crime in our country.
Lack of viable economic opportunity in our country.
Lack of adequate healthcare in our country.
Lack of leadership willing to adddress issues that define Americans.
Lack of reading, understanding and carring out the provisions of our United States Constitution.
Lack of security because our borders are not protected.
Raped Social Security System.
Lack of proper oversite on our Safety Net (Social Service) system.
Lack of durable goods manufacturing in our country. "Inverted GNP".
This is just to name a few of the items your politician can address. There are many more, but you get the jest of it. And every one of the questions are basic, clear and fundamental.
So if it's not Obama JH. WHO do I need to go with and WHY! In your opinion what can I expect from your choice, over the next 4 years or so. Think about it: Every educated person is not rich, but almost every educated person has a job and a way out of poverty. So education is a fundamental solution to poverty. - Governor Kathleen Blanco
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Sun, 2008-07-27 18:58
we...
ae Says:

can send bombs but not food?
And you are aware that morality existed before there was a Bible? before there was a Christ?
Please, descend from your hyperbolic high horse...
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Sun, 2008-07-27 20:15
Well stated ae.
gmaudlin Says:
Thank you for being a part of the Hive. I admire you as a person!
Think about it: Every educated person is not rich, but almost every educated person has a job and a way out of poverty. So education is a fundamental solution to poverty. - Governor Kathleen Blanco
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Mon, 2008-07-28 23:38
latimes.com on Barry's Speech
jheaton Says:
Interesting read.
http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/commentary/la-oe-bolton26-2008jul26,0,4923423.story
Perhaps Obama needs a remedial course in Cold War history, but the Berlin Wall most certainly did not come down because "the world stood as one." The wall fell because of a decades-long, existential struggle against one of the greatest totalitarian ideologies mankind has ever faced. It was a struggle in which strong and determined U.S. leadership was constantly questioned, both in Europe and by substantial segments of the senator's own Democratic Party. In Germany in the later years of the Cold War, Ostpolitik -- "eastern politics," a policy of rapprochement rather than resistance -- continuously risked a split in the Western alliance and might have allowed communism to survive. The U.S. president who made the final successful assault on communism, Ronald Reagan, was derided by many in Europe as not very bright, too unilateralist and too provocative......
Throughout the Berlin speech, there were numerous policy pronouncements, all of them hazy and nonspecific, none of them new or different than what Obama has already said during the long American campaign. But the Berlin framework in which he wrapped these ideas for the first time is truly radical for a prospective American president. That he picked a foreign audience is perhaps not surprising, because they could be expected to welcome a less-assertive American view of its role in the world, at least at first glance. Even anti-American Europeans, however, are likely to regret a United States that sees itself as just one more nation in a "united" world.
The more I see of people, the better I like my dogs!
John D. Heaton jr....."Jack"
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Tue, 2008-07-29 00:22
If it is possible at all JHeaton, can you answer the questions
gmaudlin Says:
refuting your disdain for America? You are a very angry man and I feel for you. Answer the post if you will, and stay on thread please!
Think about it: Every educated person is not rich, but almost every educated person has a job and a way out of poverty. So education is a fundamental solution to poverty. - Governor Kathleen Blanco
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Thu, 2008-07-31 01:02
Tell The Truth
jheaton Says:
That is what these videos do. Barry's record and words will do his campaign in.
http://obamatruth.org/
The more I see of people, the better I like my dogs!
John D. Heaton jr....."Jack"
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Mon, 2008-08-11 18:12
Barry And Infanticide
jheaton Says:
Barry can try to run and hide, but who he is is slowly appearing. Looks like Barry has a few fowls a roosting in his house.
http://www.nrlc.org/ObamaBAIPA/index.html
http://michellemalkin.com/
Newly obtained documents prove that in 2003, Barack Obama, as chairman of an IL state Senate committee, voted down a bill to protect live-born survivors of abortion - even after the panel had amended the bill to contain verbatim language, copied from a federal bill passed by Congress without objection in 2002, explicitly foreclosing any impact on abortion. Obama’s legislative actions in 2003 - denying effective protection even to babies born alive during abortions - were contrary to the position taken on the same language by even the most liberal members of Congress. The bill Obama killed was virtually identical to the federal bill that even NARAL ultimately did not oppose.
In many respects a liberal is someone who failed to grow up, a child who is driven by emotion rather than reason, and feels a sense of entitlement to what others have.
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Mon, 2008-08-11 18:19
Ok, Before I have a siezure
MtnMom Says:
What is NARAL?
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Mon, 2008-08-11 18:32
NARAL
jheaton Says:
Is a pro choice/pro infanticide activist organization. Most libs bow to them.
In many respects a liberal is someone who failed to grow up, a child who is driven by emotion rather than reason, and feels a sense of entitlement to what others have.
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Mon, 2008-08-11 18:37
I never knew babies survived abortion.
MtnMom Says:
So to think that they get killed after being born alive, my God, how do they kill them? Little babies. My God. Why?
And why would anyone want legislation to pass to kill them?
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Mon, 2008-08-11 19:57
MtM
jheaton Says:
Life is sacred from the moment of conception til the moment of death. If the youngest of life can be murdered then so can the oldest. Abortion is murder and sadly, the supreme court ruled it into law on poor reasoning. Abortion is proof of the exsistance of evil.
In many respects a liberal is someone who failed to grow up, a child who is driven by emotion rather than reason, and feels a sense of entitlement to what others have.
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Mon, 2008-08-11 20:14
But they actually kill the ones that survive the abortion!!!
MtnMom Says:
I just never new babies survived bortion. I cannot figure out how, once a little baby is actually born alive that someone can then kill it! It seems that all the argument about whether or not it is a "real" baby or whatever would be over at that point.
I'm more than a little upset here. I guess my brain is still back in high school when we were taught that abortion is ok in the first 3 months because it is 2 tiny to live on its own. As I have studied this issue this evening my soul has been devasted with the reality that woman can choose to ... O God.. I seriouly can't even discuss this right now.
How IGNORANT a society that debates the death penalty for murderers and rapists all the while high minded humans think they have the right to give each other the "right" to murder the most innocent and helpless ofour own kind! Oh aren't we a progressive bunch! DANMIT!! WHO DO WE THINK WE ARE/
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Mon, 2008-08-11 20:55
Women have the right to choose! America stands for Choice!truthseekers Says:
When men can give birth then they can tell women what to do until they they Can't. The death penalty is murder and it proves evil lives. If you can kill one of us you can kill any of us. Life begins at birth. It's just my opinion.
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Mon, 2008-08-11 21:18
BULL!
MtnMom Says:
Did you not see what I wrote?? There are people who advocate for killing the babies once the are actually born alive!!! "OOOPS! Failed abortion. Let's just kill the little baby" Isn't it just a so called "fetus" while in the mother's womb?
Newborns are innocent! Once a baby is actually born alive who can then takes his or her little life away???? This goes way beyond politics for me. My soul has but wounded deeply. My God, I don't get it. Rights. Bull!
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Mon, 2008-08-11 21:25
MtM
jheaton Says:
with the belief of some that a baby is not a life until outside the womb has lead to partial birth murder. The doc reaches in, turns the child backwards until only the head is left inside the mother. A sryinge is inserted to the the back of the skull. I can't go on from here...... Just to horrific, sad and downright evil.
In many respects a liberal is someone who failed to grow up, a child who is driven by emotion rather than reason, and feels a sense of entitlement to what others have.
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Mon, 2008-08-11 21:33
I know how it works,,maybe you would prefer a syringetruthseekers Says:
loaded with poison..I only advocate first term abortion. But I really don't care what others think. Its not right to tell others what to do with their bodies. People who can suggest killing adults and not abortion are in my book derranged.
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Mon, 2008-08-11 21:42
there are many forms of...
ae Says:

abortion. War is just another way... murder another... vehicular manslaughter... cigarettes... cluster bombs suck too... curious how some who often advocate violence (on other levels) speak of life being sacred from birth to death...
Aren't we off-topic? I thought this was about Obama...
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Mon, 2008-08-11 21:44
Sad
jheaton Says:
That some think that an innocent child in the womb is an equal to a murderous adult who has free will. I will never understand that ill logic and can only pray that God will shine His light of Truth and Wisdom their way.
In many respects a liberal is someone who failed to grow up, a child who is driven by emotion rather than reason, and feels a sense of entitlement to what others have.
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Mon, 2008-08-11 21:45
On this matter I am at peace being deranged.
MtnMom Says:
Killing a live infant - innocent, pure, breathing, soft, gentle, a precious bundle of need that could grow up to be amazing.
Yes, I would rather be deranged than to think that killing a newborn is ok.
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Mon, 2008-08-11 21:46
Thanks
jheaton Says:
AE, it is off topic. And needs to be addressed in a new thread.
In many respects a liberal is someone who failed to grow up, a child who is driven by emotion rather than reason, and feels a sense of entitlement to what others have.
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Barry And Infanticide

Barry can try to run and hide, but who he is is slowly appearing. Looks like Barry has a few fowls a roosting in his house.
http://www.nrlc.org/ObamaBAIPA/index.html
http://michellemalkin.com/
Newly obtained documents prove that in 2003, Barack Obama, as chairman of an IL state Senate committee, voted down a bill to protect live-born survivors of abortion - even after the panel had amended the bill to contain verbatim language, copied from a federal bill passed by Congress without objection in 2002, explicitly foreclosing any impact on abortion. Obama’s legislative actions in 2003 - denying effective protection even to babies born alive during abortions - were contrary to the position taken on the same language by even the most liberal members of Congress. The bill Obama killed was virtually identical to the federal bill that even NARAL ultimately did not oppose.